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The Two Witnesses

14 Mar

As I claimed in my previous post the “Two Witnesses” are really Jesus. Yet, you may ask how can Jesus, who is one, be two? Well, Jesus said of himself that he came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets. Moses and Elijah appeared to him while he was transfigured before Peter, James and John. Both Moses and Elijah were the two witnesses of the Old Testament. Moses represents the whole Law of God and Elijah, being the first of the prophets of God, represents the Prophets and Writings of the Old Covenant. Jesus embodies the entire witness of God and came to fulfill all. Remember that the book of Revelation is a highly pictorial and apocalyptic book. It is not stretching truth to see him this way.

You, may agree with the above, but say Revelation 11 doesn’t read like there is only one witness. The wording seems to say there must be two, and some of it doesn’t seem to describe Jesus, for example the bodies (plural) of the witnesses were left in the street for 3 ½ days. What’s that all about and how can this refer to Jesus? Let’s look at the phrase “their dead bodies” and see what the Scripture is saying.

Revelation 11:7-9 KJV  And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.  (8)  And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.  (9)  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Concerning their “dead bodies” in verse-7, the oldest manuscripts have the singular: “their corpse.” In verse-9 likewise, though the Vulgate, Syriac and ANDREAS have the plural “dead bodies,” the manuscripts: A, B, C and Coptic have the singular. Likewise the word graves in verse-9 is plural in the Vulgate and PRIMASIUS but is singular in B, C, Syriac, Coptic and ANDREAS. So, there is plenty of room here for the understanding that the two are, in fact, one witness. However, let’s look at Jesus’ own words about himself.

John 8:13-18 KJV  The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.  (14)  Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.  (15)  Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.  (16)  And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.  (17)  It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.  (18)  I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Here Jesus claims he is not alone, because the Father who is with him bears witness of Jesus’ words through the works he does through Jesus. Earlier Jesus claimed the same thing in John 5:36-37, so it not an unlikely thought that Jesus and the Father, being one are Two Witnesses. Nevertheless, there is more than this to testify that Jesus is the Two Witnesses. Notice what John says in his epistle:

1 John 5:6-9 KJV  This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.  (7)  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  (8)  And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.  (9)  If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

John tell us that Jesus came by water AND blood, not by water only. Later in the Scripture he says the water and blood are two of three witnesses on the earth. This is understood, in that, when Jesus was born, he was born as all men are, namely, through water in a woman’s womb. This can also be understood in a spiritual sense in baptism as the public testimony that one intends to devote oneself to God. Either way of looking at this is a witness of man. If I live, I am a witness to what I see in my life. If I submit to baptism, I am calling the world to witness to the fact that I am devoting myself to God. Secondly, John says that Jesus didn’t merely come by water but also by blood. That is, Jesus’ life’s blood witnesses to the fact that his life was true. He shed his blood for the sake of what he testified.

This in itself is two witnesses, however, notice what John claimed in both verse-8 and in verse-9. First there are three witnesses, namely the Spirit, the water and the blood. However, John claimed in verse-9 that the witness of God is greater than the witness of man. In other words, the water and the blood are man’s witness, but the Spirit is the witness of God. Jesus was God in the flesh. He witnessed as man through water and blood or through is life and death, and he witnessed as God living in the flesh. That is, he was and is both Man and God in the same body at the same time, and therefore Two Witnesses!

There is more to be shared concerning the 3 ½ days, and I’ll complete this study in the next post. May God bless his holy word and help all who read it to understand.

 

About Ed Bromfield

I am a Christian. I am married to my lovely wife, Kay, for over 40 years. I have enjoyed growing old with her, and look forward to a few more years, if our Lord permits. I am also a father of two daughters, both are married to two wonderful men. My eldest daughter has two children-a girl and a boy, so I am also a grandfather! God has been so kind to let me see both of my daughters fulfilling their dreams while they follow Jesus. I retired from a telecommunications company in 2002, and have never looked back. I have found retirement much more fulfilling than living by another man's schedule. I enjoy studying the Scriptures, reading a good book, blogging, and discussing my faith with folks who are willing to challenge me on several discussion boards over the internet. I am also a Sunday school teacher, and have been for over 12 years.
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Posted by on March 14, 2011 in Revelation, Two Witnesses

 

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4 Responses to The Two Witnesses

  1. Zachary Granato

    May 14, 2011 at 15:12

    I am a witness to the voice of living waters

     
  2. Zachary Granato

    May 14, 2011 at 15:18

    Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls, becuase, of the multitude of men and livestock in it. For I, says the Lord, will be a wall of fire all around her, and I will be the glory in her midst.

     
  3. Steve

    February 23, 2012 at 13:19

    I found your post during my quest to determine if the 2 wittnesses (olive trees / Lamp stands) of Revelation 11 were indeed Jesus. But the reason that led me to the possibility was Zechariah 3-4, the vision and first mention of the 2 wittnesses (olive trees / lamp stands who are revealed to be the King and the High Priest of Israel).

    Zech 3:8 “Listen, O high priest Joshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day… Then the angel… asked me, “What do you see? ”I answered, “I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.” I asked the angel who talked with me, “What are these, my lord?” He answered, “Do you not know what these are?” “No, my lord,” I replied. So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel (the king): ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty. “What are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Then the word of the LORD came to me: “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it…”Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand? ”Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?” He replied, “Do you not know what these are?” “No, my lord,” I said. So he said, “These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

    When the exiles returned from Babylon, Joshua was in line to be the High Priest, and Zerubbabel to be the king. The Kings and Priests were the only “anointed” of Israel. These 2 leaders in this vision were called SYMBOLIC of things to come (King/Priest Jesus). He was to rule “not by might” as with a regular man king, but by the Spirit. He was also to be our High Priest; i.e. the two offices in one.

    Therefore, because Revelation 4 says: These (the 2 wittnesses) are THE two olive trees and the two lamp stands that stand before the Lord of the earth” referring to Zechariah 3-4, I think the two wittnesses should be defined as the King and the Priest. This would also explain the two as one and of course would still make the 2 wittnesses Jesus.

     
    • Ed Bromfield

      February 24, 2012 at 08:53

      Hi Steve. You show a very interesting approach that I hadn’t thought of before. Of course I knew Jesus was both Priest and King, but I hadn’t applied it to the Two Witnesses as you have here. Thank you for sharing your understanding.

      I was first ‘tipped’ off that the Two Witnesses couldn’t be mere human beings when I saw the how well Zechariah and Revelation worked so well together. I knew from Matthew 25 that oil often represented the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not given to men through other men–only God. Therefore, I began looking for something else. As I saw Jesus amid the 7 lamp stands in Revelation 1, something ‘clicked’ and I looked for Jesus being the Two Witnesses in some manner. You have my study here in 3 blog-posts.

      Lord bless you,

      Eddie

       

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