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The Death of the Two Witnesses

14 Mar

In my two previous posts, seen HERE and HERE, I have presented an argument for consideration that Jesus is the two witnesses. The Scriptures clearly show that in the Temple the oil (symbol for the Holy Spirit) comes out of the two Anointed Ones to the seven lamps which symbolize the seven churches in Asia, representing the whole Church of God. The question arises, how can any man be the source for oil (the Holy Spirit) for the Church of God? Obviously, it is not possible for this to occur through man. It must come from God, and it does—through Jesus, the God-Man who is the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11.

There are a few obvious questions I have yet to address. For example, concerning the 3-½ days the Two Witnesses were to lie dead in the street before they resurrect. If Jesus didn’t lie in the street for 3 ½ days, how could the Two Witnesses be Jesus?

Notice In Revelation 11:7 says that the Beast that arises out of the bottomless pit makes war with the witnesses and kills them. This occurred when Pilate, the first of the 10 horns of the 7th head of the Beast, had Jesus crucified. In Revelation 11:8 we are told that the witnesses will “lie in the street.” Well the word “lie” is inserted by the translator for clarity. The problem is it is not in the Greek. What is really said is the corpse (singular) would be along a major street. The Romans always crucified their victims along major roads in and out of cities, or in the place where the criminal was supposed to have committed the crime, or where he had been arrested. In this case, Jesus was arrested in Gethsemane on Mount Olivet, and he was crucified there along a major road out of Jerusalem leading to Jericho.

In Revelation 11:9 we find that the corpse will not be buried for 3 ½ days and after the 3 ½ days are complete Revelation 11:11-12 shows us that the arisen Christ will now ascend into heaven to God. This is exactly what occurred with regard to Jesus’ death, resurrection and ascension into heaven at the time of the Wave Sheaf Offering, which was the offering that blessed the harvest. Jesus is our Firstfurits that blessed the harvest of mankind. No one was resurrected or ascended into heaven until Jesus did.

Remember, all Revelation 11:9 says is that the corpse of the Two Witnesses will not be permitted to be “put” in a tomb. That is, its own tomb. Jesus was laid in a temporary grave, because it was nearby and the Sabbath was coming on (John 19:42, Luke 23:54). This temporary tomb belonged to Joseph of Arimathaea (Matthew 27:57-60). The sense here is that the burial was not permanent. Jesus was laid there only because it was close by! Later, his friends would have moved his body with the permission of the Roman authorities.

Mark 15:44-46 says that when the centurion told Pilate Jesus was dead, Pilate gave the body to Joseph. Joseph bought fine linen (verse-46); probably he had bought the linen awhile ago for himself, since this was to be his own tomb. John 19:39 says that he and Nicodemus had also bought 100 lb. of myrrh and aloes to wrap in with the linen (verse-40), again, probably purchased at a previous time. In any case, the Sabbath was so near that they couldn’t have finished, because Mark 16:1 tells us Mary Magdalene and Mary the Mother of James and Salome bought sweet spices after the Sabbath was past that they might anoint Jesus later. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day or the 14th of Nisan. The women purchased the sweet spices on Nisan 16, between the Feast Day or annual Sabbath and the weekly or 7th day Sabbath, and then rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:56). The point of all this is: the Scriptures show they were not finished caring for the dead body of Jesus, and they were not permitted to carry on until the Roman guard was removed after the third day was complete. The earliest the women would have been permitted to anoint Jesus’ body would have been the morning of the 18th of Nisan on what we consider to be Resurrection Sunday, or 3 ½ days after Jesus was placed in Joseph’s sepulcher.

A watch was set over the body of Jesus (Matthew 27:62-66). He was laid in another man’s tomb, because it was convenient. Later, he would have to have been moved to another grave. His body was not fully prepared. Can anyone really claim that Jesus was laid to rest? It was certainly possible for the women to take care of the burial on Nisan 16, but the tomb was sealed and the guard was there preventing the proper care of the body. To be sure the word translated “put (tithemi G5087) in a grave” (Revelation 11:9) allows for the idea that Joseph’s sepulcher was temporary. This Greek word is used by Christ for ordained in reference to the office of apostle in John 15:16; again it is used by Paul for his own office in 1Timothy 2:7 and 2Timothy 1:11; it is used as well for Christ being appointed heir of all things in Hebrews 1:2. Therefore, in Revelation 11:9 Christ was never appointed a tomb. Personally, I believe there is plenty of room to say that the authorities would not allow Jesus to be properly buried until the First Day of the Weeks, which would have been 3 ½ days after his crucifixion.

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Posted by on March 14, 2011 in Revelation, Two Witnesses

 

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6 responses to “The Death of the Two Witnesses

  1. Alan

    October 15, 2011 at 20:02

    Are you saying the chapter about the two witnesses was already fulfilled with Jesus’ ministry and crucifixion? It was written in future tense though and was received as a vision. What verses in Revelation are fulfilled, which spiritually apply to our times, and which are about specifically about Christ’s return?

     
    • Ed Bromfield

      October 16, 2011 at 06:03

      My meaning is quite clear in the post. You are simply playing. Hope you had a good time. Things must be boring where you are.

       
    • Steve

      February 23, 2012 at 17:06

      I have been home churching for over 20 years now. Home church is to be modeled after the early church format. Home church is very different than the Catholic or neo-Catholic church systems of today where you have a speaker and a passive audience. In home church everyone is allowed to participate as we see it done in 1 Corth 14:26. During the years of home churching I have learned (and scripture teaches) that when someone disagrees with my doctrine, I am to gently and patiently try to guide them into the Truth. I must also always be aware that I too may be incorrect on doctrine and be open to a truth that I may have missed or mistaken. This brother or sister has made a legitimate statement / question. I am quite perplexed by your seemingly cynical response. Jesus prayed for and Paul encouraged unity. This effort takes time, patience and much love! I know some people on the Inet can just be contentious and frustrating; but I do not think that was the case here.

       
    • Ed Bromfield

      February 24, 2012 at 08:46

      Hi Steve, and thanks for reading and looking out for my representing Christ accurately in how I treat others. You would be correct, if this was all that was said, but it wasn’t. This doesn’t mean that I am correct either, but it was a judgment call, and he hasn’t responded since. That could mean he was offended, and I am to blame, but most times if I inadvertently or even overtly offend people, they return to tell me I am wrong or to challenge me further. He didn’t. I still think he was playing.

      I had been in an on-going discussion with him on another blog-post. He seemed to be only picking and trying to upset me, which was working, because I was trying to get through to him. I have learned on discussion forums that some people simply like to ask questions, not to receive answers, but to frustrate one’s desire to communicate the truth. If you wish, you can read the entire discussion (minus Alan’s entry on this post) HERE.

       
    • Steve

      February 23, 2012 at 17:49

      Alan, you pose a good question. I found this post because I was also questioning if Jesus was the 2 witnesses of Rev 11. The reason that led me to the possibility that Jesus the 2 witnesses was Zechariah 3-4, the vision and first mention of the 2 witnesses (olive trees / lamp stands who are revealed to be the King and the High Priest of Israel. Zech 3:8

      “Listen, O high priest Joshua and your associates seated before you, who are men symbolic of things to come: I am going to bring my servant, the Branch. See, the stone I have set in front of Joshua! There are seven eyes on that one stone, and I will engrave an inscription on it,’ says the LORD Almighty, ‘and I will remove the sin of this land in a single day… Then the angel… asked me, “What do you see? ”I answered, “I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.” I asked the angel who talked with me, “What are these, my lord?” He answered, “Do you not know what these are?” “No, my lord,” I replied. So he said to me, “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel (the king): ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the LORD Almighty. “What are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Then the word of the LORD came to me: “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it…”Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand? ”Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?” He replied, “Do you not know what these are?” “No, my lord,” I said. So he said, “These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

      When the exiles returned from Babylon, Joshua was in lineage to be the High Priest, and Zerubbabel to be the king. The Kings and Priests were the only “anointed” of Israel. These 2 leaders in this vision were called SYMBOLIC of things to come (King/Priest Jesus). He was to rule “not by might” as with a regular man king, but by the Spirit. He was also to be our High Priest; i.e. the two in one.

      Therefore, because Revelation 4 says: These (the 2 witnesses) are THE two olive trees and the two lamp stands that stand before the Lord of the earth” referring to Zechariah 3-4, I think the two wittnesses should be defined as the King and the Priest. This would make the 2 wittnesses Jesus.

      Now how could these 2 witnesses also apply to Christians? Rev 5:10

      “…and You (Christ) have redeemed them to God by Your blood out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, and have made them kings and priests to our God; and they shall reign on the earth.”

      So perhaps these 2 witnesses are the true CHRIST-ians that (like Christ), serve as “kings and priests” and SO resemble Christ that their martyrdoms will actually be as or likened unto His.

      As for a time frame, the 2 witnesses are the 2ed woe, see 11:14. Working backwards chronologically, the second woe comes after the 1st woe which comes at the 5th Trumpet which comes well after the giving of the 7 Trumpets. The giving of the 7 trumpets is at the 7th seal. The 6th seal is the sealing of the 144K. So this event (the 2 witnesses) happens well after the sealing of the 144K. The 144K are the end-time TRUE Christians (the Israel of God/12 tribes) spread throughout the world; see Gal 6:16 and James 1. Also right after or concurrently with the resurrection of the 2 witnesses the LAST Trumpet (7th) blows i.e. the Rapture 1 Corth 15:52. Then the judgment of the dead, the reward of the saints and God’s Temple is in Heaven. I am pretty sure this is the very end of the world.

       

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